Great White Games/Pinnacle Entertainment Group

Rooath · Novice Joined: 15 Oct 2012 Posts: 1

Hey all,

This is my first post, but I've been pouring over the IZ rules and found the blurb about having to have a d8 Hacking skill in addition to the other requirements to get the Thief professional edge.

I totally agree with this, but it does add difficult in acquiring the edge while limiting utility. In simplest terms, in a pre-electronics setting all locks and traps are physical and therefore a thief would get +2 to all related rolls, but in IZ they lose the bonus if the lock or device is electronic in nature.

My solution is to give the +2 to analogous activities regardless of the skill involved. For example, if the thief is trying to hack the hyper object on a security door or motion sensor they get the bonus, but trying to modify a data file would get no such bonus as it is not thematically appropriate to the edge. What does everyone else think?

ValhallaGH · Legendary Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 4475

Welcome!

I'd suggest dropping the Hacking requirement from the edge. Per the Hacking 2.0 update, Hacking is no longer a free skill (and Knowledge [Programing] is deleted), and interacting with Hyper-Objects changed a lot.
All locks have to have a physical aspect to them, since they are physical barriers. I'd let Thief apply generally, as you Lockpick the physical aspect of the lock - that does very little for locks that only have a digital access on one side, or that are wired into an alarm system, but there's a reason you want a Hacker along. Cool

But, as a cat burglar, you can use unusual approaches that let you completely bypass those pesky all-digital locks. Wink

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thurak · Veteran Joined: 04 May 2009 Posts: 995

Kodyax · Seasoned Joined: 29 Sep 2010 Posts: 492

good to know we can drop the hacking req for Thief. I made a pre-gen of a rabbit ronin with that edge and I don't think I gave that high a die in hacking. I also forgot where the mod was so I just used SWD version and called it a day. I still gave the rabbit maybe a d6 in Hacking.